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		<title>Attivio update</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/09/20/attivio-update/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 05:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I talked w/ Andrew McKay of Attivio for 2 ½ hours Thursday. I&#8217;ve also been working with some Attivio engineers on a blog search engine. I think it&#8217;s time to post about Attivio. In its full conception, the Attivio Intelligence Engine is something like Endeca + RDBMS + search engine + XML store + cool [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">I talked w/ Andrew McKay of Attivio for 2 ½ hours Thursday.  I&#8217;ve also been working with some Attivio engineers on a blog search engine.  I think it&#8217;s time to post about Attivio. <img src='http://www.texttechnologies.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <span id="more-283"></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">In its full conception, the Attivio Intelligence Engine is something like Endeca + RDBMS + search engine + XML store + cool extra features.  And all with seamless, lightweight, integrated installation and administration.  That&#8217;s the goal, anyway.  At this point, naturally, each individual piece is far from complete. For example:</p>
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<li>Sufficient SQL support to handle 	most BI tools is still a matter for future releases &#8212; apparently in 	2009, although Attivio is one of those agile companies for which 	pinning down product releases is somewhat difficult.</li>
<li>The same goes some basic GUI 	features (such as  most non-programmatic search tuning).</li>
<li>ACID compliance is not a high 	priority for Attivio. I actually think it should be higher, just 	because it&#8217;s increasingly become an “OK, we don&#8217;t have to worry 	about THAT” checkmark item.</li>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Even in its early days, Attivio has had some nice-sounding customer successes.  There are 8 paying Attivio customers, including 2 &gt; $1 million deals, one half-millionish dollar deal, and 1 large OEM.  3 represent actual deployments, with the rest in development.  More sales are on the way, as are permissions to disclose customer names that people will actually recognize.  Customer application stories Andrew told me about include:</p>
<ul>
<li>A web-business parameterized, 	adjustable-weight search that&#8217;s starting with tabular data and only 	getting to free-text later.</li>
<li>An enterprise that&#8217;s using Attivio 	for content management, enterprise search, public-facing search, <em>and</em> data warehousing.</li>
<li>Something 	big/mysterious/classified, with large document volumes.</li>
<li>Something to do with compliance, 	about which Andrew was going to forward a lot more detail that 	evening (Hint, hint).</li>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Since the major RDBMS (Oracle, Microsoft SQL Server, DB2) all have text search and XML subsystems, they can in principle do everything Attivio does on the back end, and with a lot more features and maturity.  The same would go for Marklogic.   Performance and overhead might be different matters, however; Andrew certainly believes so.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Except that Lucene is included on the search side, I haven&#8217;t actually figured out how Attivio stores data.  The fact that SQL features are being added incrementally suggests Attivio is rolling its own relational database capability, but how it&#8217;s organized I don&#8217;t really know.</p>
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		<title>Attivio tries to do it all</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2007/12/12/attivio-tries-to-do-it-all/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[BI integration]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[When Andrew McKay was at FAST, I grumped about his search/BI integration story. Now that he&#8217;s trying to do the same thing at a startup called Attivio, it sounds more plausible. Attivio is having a house party and product rollout in the latter part of January, and details are scarce in the mean time. But [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Andrew McKay was at FAST, I grumped about his <a href="http://www.texttechnologies.com/2007/02/01/what%e2%80%99s-interesting-about-the-fast-venture-in-bi/" >search/BI integration story</a>.   Now that he&#8217;s trying to do the same thing at a startup called <a href="http://www.attivio.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.attivio.com');">Attivio</a>, it sounds more plausible.</p>
<p>Attivio is having a house party and product rollout in the latter part of January, and details are scarce in the mean time.  But here are some highlights.</p>
<ul>
<li>Attivio was founded in August.  It has 21 people and 1 VC.  The VC has invested &gt;$6 million and committed &gt;$12 million total.</li>
<li>Attivio has ambitious plans for a fully integrated data management/real-time BI stack.  It&#8217;s currently called the &#8220;Active Intelligence Engine.&#8221;<span id="more-151"></span></li>
<li>The data management part combines tabular, text, and XML data.  The tabular part is some kind of bitmap.  The text part is fairly traditional, and based on Lucene.</li>
<li>One point of this architecture is that one can more or less seamlessly join different kinds of data.</li>
<li>Another point is surely that &#8212; with everything being more or less like a column or bitmap &#8212; memory management and administration are manageable issues.</li>
<li>Despite containing all these wonders, the code is under 10 megs total.  At least right now.  But then &#8212; how much code can one write in a few months?</li>
<li>Andrew didn&#8217;t want me to repeat everything he said about target markets, but clearly Wall Street is one of the top possibilities.</li>
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<p>Stay tuned.</p>
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