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	<title>Comments on: More website weirdness</title>
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	<description>Understanding technology ... in both senses of the phrase</description>
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		<title>By: Nick Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/11/19/more-website-weirdness/comment-page-1/#comment-55126</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt,

I guess that&#039;s the problem with blogs - taking stand-alone articles in their stand-alone context... I simply couldn&#039;t be bothered to search back articles before responding (yes, it&#039;s true!)...

Cheers,

Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt,</p>
<p>I guess that&#8217;s the problem with blogs &#8211; taking stand-alone articles in their stand-alone context&#8230; I simply couldn&#8217;t be bothered to search back articles before responding (yes, it&#8217;s true!)&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Nick</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/11/19/more-website-weirdness/comment-page-1/#comment-54961</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

It&#039;s hard to think of another company than Mark Logic about which I&#039;ve written as consistently favorably.

Maybe that can be your first clue. ;)

Best,

CAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to think of another company than Mark Logic about which I&#8217;ve written as consistently favorably.</p>
<p>Maybe that can be your first clue. <img src='http://www.texttechnologies.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>CAM</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/11/19/more-website-weirdness/comment-page-1/#comment-54947</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, if you want to see MarkLogic in action, go to http://markmail.org. It&#039;s pretty impressive given the content and the 2 servers (I&#039;m told) running it. 

Candidly Curt, even though I&#039;m not a Marklogic customer so it doesn&#039;t really matter, I can&#039;t tell if you&#039;re comment is aimed at their product or just their website. Disappointing in that regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, if you want to see MarkLogic in action, go to <a href="http://markmail.org" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/markmail.org');" rel="nofollow">http://markmail.org</a>. It&#8217;s pretty impressive given the content and the 2 servers (I&#8217;m told) running it. </p>
<p>Candidly Curt, even though I&#8217;m not a Marklogic customer so it doesn&#8217;t really matter, I can&#8217;t tell if you&#8217;re comment is aimed at their product or just their website. Disappointing in that regard.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/11/19/more-website-weirdness/comment-page-1/#comment-54724</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

The criticism isn&#039;t that Mark Logic fails to be SUPERIOR to other companies in its presentation of information. If it were, your rebuttal would make perfect sense. 

Rather, the implication is that Mark Logic&#039;s presentation is INFERIOR.  A rebuttal to that might be &quot;Small-site site search options are so terrible that it&#039;s best to use none at all.&quot; Is that your position?

Best,

CAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>The criticism isn&#8217;t that Mark Logic fails to be SUPERIOR to other companies in its presentation of information. If it were, your rebuttal would make perfect sense. </p>
<p>Rather, the implication is that Mark Logic&#8217;s presentation is INFERIOR.  A rebuttal to that might be &#8220;Small-site site search options are so terrible that it&#8217;s best to use none at all.&#8221; Is that your position?</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>CAM</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Kellogg</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/11/19/more-website-weirdness/comment-page-1/#comment-54711</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Kellogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A cheap shot, Curt.  We do not sell a web CMS, we sell an XML Server.  In fact, the only reason we&#039;d consider using MarkLogic Server to publish our relatively tiny site would be to avoid shots like these.

As a reminder, MarkLogic Server is typically used by publishers as a platform for the creation of information products, typically with anywhere between 100,000 and (in our Government vertical) 1B documents.

My relatively small marketing team has yet to generate 1M documents on MarkLogic.  Ergo, the site doesn&#039;t run on MarkLogic nor will it soon.

If you want to see examples of the old, eating your own dog food thing, see MarkMail (http://markmail.org) which has spidered 30M email messages and is a great Internet mail archive search engine.

And, if you&#039;re interested, we can show you our *internal* deployment of MarkMail which generates 1000s of hits per day.  And we have some other cool, more use-case-appropriate apps, as well.

For roughly the same reason, I haven&#039;t built our GL/financial app on MarkLogic, we haven&#039;t deployed our site on it either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A cheap shot, Curt.  We do not sell a web CMS, we sell an XML Server.  In fact, the only reason we&#8217;d consider using MarkLogic Server to publish our relatively tiny site would be to avoid shots like these.</p>
<p>As a reminder, MarkLogic Server is typically used by publishers as a platform for the creation of information products, typically with anywhere between 100,000 and (in our Government vertical) 1B documents.</p>
<p>My relatively small marketing team has yet to generate 1M documents on MarkLogic.  Ergo, the site doesn&#8217;t run on MarkLogic nor will it soon.</p>
<p>If you want to see examples of the old, eating your own dog food thing, see MarkMail (<a href="http://markmail.org" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/markmail.org');" rel="nofollow">http://markmail.org</a>) which has spidered 30M email messages and is a great Internet mail archive search engine.</p>
<p>And, if you&#8217;re interested, we can show you our *internal* deployment of MarkMail which generates 1000s of hits per day.  And we have some other cool, more use-case-appropriate apps, as well.</p>
<p>For roughly the same reason, I haven&#8217;t built our GL/financial app on MarkLogic, we haven&#8217;t deployed our site on it either.</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth Horton</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/11/19/more-website-weirdness/comment-page-1/#comment-54555</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Horton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too right Daniel, talk to builders&#039; wives and they&#039;ll inevitably complain about the fact that their homes are always a shoddy work-in-progress.

Gareth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too right Daniel, talk to builders&#8217; wives and they&#8217;ll inevitably complain about the fact that their homes are always a shoddy work-in-progress.</p>
<p>Gareth</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Lemire</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/11/19/more-website-weirdness/comment-page-1/#comment-54553</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Lemire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this so surprising?

I would not be surprised at all if, internally, Googlers had problem finding company documents. I would not be surprised if an OLAP company had trouble analyzing its own data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this so surprising?</p>
<p>I would not be surprised at all if, internally, Googlers had problem finding company documents. I would not be surprised if an OLAP company had trouble analyzing its own data.</p>
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