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	<title>Comments on: JLove &#8212; a classic example of online dishonesty</title>
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		<title>By: New frontiers in on-line defamation &#124; carlos-m.net</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/06/19/jlove-a-classic-example-of-online-dishonesty/#comment-44859</link>
		<dc:creator>New frontiers in on-line defamation &#124; carlos-m.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/06/19/jlove-a-classic-example-of-online-dishonesty/#comment-44817</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Th names are off. I talked to Yoav early this week and told him this was illegal. I mentioned that not only was my name on it , but the names of all the members in my family and extended family. Like Curt, as far as I know, I am the only one person who has my name.

When I talked to him on the phone, he told me to send him a letter that he could send to the people &quot;responsible&quot;. I also received the above form letter you received word for word.

I did send a letter, saying if my name was not removed legal action would be taken.

Yoav emailed me to tell  me all names have been removed. He apologized and seemed genuine. I suspect the people responsible were the ones we got that automated letter from.

My name is my own again. You too have your names back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Th names are off. I talked to Yoav early this week and told him this was illegal. I mentioned that not only was my name on it , but the names of all the members in my family and extended family. Like Curt, as far as I know, I am the only one person who has my name.</p>
<p>When I talked to him on the phone, he told me to send him a letter that he could send to the people &#8220;responsible&#8221;. I also received the above form letter you received word for word.</p>
<p>I did send a letter, saying if my name was not removed legal action would be taken.</p>
<p>Yoav emailed me to tell  me all names have been removed. He apologized and seemed genuine. I suspect the people responsible were the ones we got that automated letter from.</p>
<p>My name is my own again. You too have your names back.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/06/19/jlove-a-classic-example-of-online-dishonesty/#comment-44693</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Nick [July 7th, 2008 9:01 am] I also manually approve members to my website, which does ensure that most members are who they say they are. Getting 100% of members &quot;real&quot; is nigh on impossible as the scammers are always looking for new ways to deceive.

As a tip, if any one who is member of a dating site does comes into contact with a scammer they should report them to the website they belong to asap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Nick [July 7th, 2008 9:01 am] I also manually approve members to my website, which does ensure that most members are who they say they are. Getting 100% of members &#8220;real&#8221; is nigh on impossible as the scammers are always looking for new ways to deceive.</p>
<p>As a tip, if any one who is member of a dating site does comes into contact with a scammer they should report them to the website they belong to asap.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/06/19/jlove-a-classic-example-of-online-dishonesty/#comment-44677</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cohen telephoned me yesterday, saying that he hadn&#039;t been involved in JLove for quite a while, but suggesting that he&#039;d influenced the new management to take down the offending web pages even so.

I suggested he leave a comment here or send me an email that I could post for him.  He said he&#039;d do the latter, but it was the sort of conversation in which he wouldn&#039;t really be a promise-breaker if he decided not to follow up on that.

CAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cohen telephoned me yesterday, saying that he hadn&#8217;t been involved in JLove for quite a while, but suggesting that he&#8217;d influenced the new management to take down the offending web pages even so.</p>
<p>I suggested he leave a comment here or send me an email that I could post for him.  He said he&#8217;d do the latter, but it was the sort of conversation in which he wouldn&#8217;t really be a promise-breaker if he decided not to follow up on that.</p>
<p>CAM</p>
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		<title>By: Karyn M</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/06/19/jlove-a-classic-example-of-online-dishonesty/#comment-44676</link>
		<dc:creator>Karyn M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, have been a victim of this outrageous scam, and I have called this Yoav Cohen directly and left a message stating that I wanted any link between their site and my name taken down TODAY.  This is completely unacceptable.

I wonder if this will work, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, have been a victim of this outrageous scam, and I have called this Yoav Cohen directly and left a message stating that I wanted any link between their site and my name taken down TODAY.  This is completely unacceptable.</p>
<p>I wonder if this will work, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/06/19/jlove-a-classic-example-of-online-dishonesty/#comment-44667</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m looking through Google&#039;s cache, and I think I got one thing wrong.  That is, I now think JLove DID harvest real names directly.  I previously thought that JLove had a list of first names and a list of last names and just matched them up, so that each last name had the same list of alleged-member first names.  But poking through Google&#039;s cache, I now think my previous impression in that regard was wrong.

CAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking through Google&#8217;s cache, and I think I got one thing wrong.  That is, I now think JLove DID harvest real names directly.  I previously thought that JLove had a list of first names and a list of last names and just matched them up, so that each last name had the same list of alleged-member first names.  But poking through Google&#8217;s cache, I now think my previous impression in that regard was wrong.</p>
<p>CAM</p>
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		<title>By: Has JLove taken the dishonest pages down? &#124; Text Technologies</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/06/19/jlove-a-classic-example-of-online-dishonesty/#comment-44552</link>
		<dc:creator>Has JLove taken the dishonest pages down? &#124; Text Technologies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] June 19, I wrote of a very dishonest gambit by a dating service called JLove. Specifically, JLove generated pages for many (First_Name, Last_Name) combos, falsely claiming that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/06/19/jlove-a-classic-example-of-online-dishonesty/#comment-44550</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

Yes and no.  Google isn&#039;t going to penalize a site if it uses &quot;white hat&quot; search engine optimization techniques to promote falsehoods.  However, there&#039;s a great chance that an outfit this aggressive has done some things Google would disapprove of.  Calling those to Google&#039;s attention might be harmful to JLove&#039;s rankings.

That said, the problem isn&#039;t really how high JLove ranks, within reason. It&#039;s that they put a false claim somewhere in the search engine results.

CAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>Yes and no.  Google isn&#8217;t going to penalize a site if it uses &#8220;white hat&#8221; search engine optimization techniques to promote falsehoods.  However, there&#8217;s a great chance that an outfit this aggressive has done some things Google would disapprove of.  Calling those to Google&#8217;s attention might be harmful to JLove&#8217;s rankings.</p>
<p>That said, the problem isn&#8217;t really how high JLove ranks, within reason. It&#8217;s that they put a false claim somewhere in the search engine results.</p>
<p>CAM</p>
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		<title>By: hornlo</title>
		<link>http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/06/19/jlove-a-classic-example-of-online-dishonesty/#comment-44534</link>
		<dc:creator>hornlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why would ClaimID be more useful than just setting up a Facebook page?&quot;

Oh, I must have mis-interpreted the original quote -- thinking you meant there should be something like a known service for it, not just simply putting one up at random somewhere yourself.  Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why would ClaimID be more useful than just setting up a Facebook page?&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, I must have mis-interpreted the original quote &#8212; thinking you meant there should be something like a known service for it, not just simply putting one up at random somewhere yourself.  Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same problem here...would it be an idea to also contact Google and request that JLove loses all of its &#039;ranking power&#039;, or whatever it is called? At least then it would not come up as the first site when our names are googled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same problem here&#8230;would it be an idea to also contact Google and request that JLove loses all of its &#8216;ranking power&#8217;, or whatever it is called? At least then it would not come up as the first site when our names are googled.</p>
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